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PostSubject: Re: Paladin Tank   Wed May 16 2012, 02:52

Just get legs from Lord Jarraxus 25m HC and you are fine.
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PostSubject: Re: Paladin Tank   Wed May 16 2012, 04:19

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For tanks you will need 26 expertise skill in order to prevent your target from dodging your attacks in order to increase your threat on that target. In addition to this a good amount of expertise also prevents your target mob from becoming parry hasted which in turn prevents you from taking spike damage or massive damage overall.

So with 26 exp, you will still get parried but boss wont gain parry haste from it.

@attribute - That's the point, I don't want to degrade my gear just to cap expertise. Plus it's like 1/100 chance to win anything now since 2x loot and we are pugging with 24 more undergeared people who will roll on everything.
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PostSubject: Re: Paladin Tank   Wed May 16 2012, 10:02

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So with 26 exp, you will still get parried but boss wont gain parry haste from it.

no chibai read it again. it means that if u get further more expertise than 26 u will also reduce chances of getting parried.. resulting in lesser hits from boss... every parry (if it occurs) causes the additional hit.. the guy just means if u get a lot of expertise u wont get parried. thats it.. ur gear cannot remove the parry mechanics from the game...
but this is not much of an issue for us now anyways.. its just that if u dont have much expertise.. u should not rely on your white hits.. take a slow weapon.. have more dodge and not prioritise parry.. and get SP + hit rating gems for Epic exorcisms.. Very Happy
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PostSubject: Re: Paladin Tank   Wed May 16 2012, 12:21

get 40 expertise Very Happy
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PostSubject: Re: Paladin Tank   Wed May 16 2012, 13:12

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So with 26 exp, you will still get parried but boss wont gain parry haste from it.

thats it.. ur gear cannot remove the parry mechanics from the game...
but this is not much of an issue for us now anyways.. its just that if u dont have much expertise.. u should not rely on your white hits.. take a slow weapon.. have more dodge and not prioritise parry.. and get SP + hit rating gems for Epic exorcisms.. Very Happy

Parry cap is 56 expertise, means with 56 boss won't dodge and parry you at all. With extra exp from gear, talent, food and elixir I could get 36 as draenei.
And if I gem and enchant, I could go for 56, for the sake of perfect defense as avoidance tank. I'd try that if someone pay me

Exorcism is only for pulling, you can't dodge/parry while you're casting
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PostSubject: Re: Paladin Tank   Wed May 16 2012, 13:18

-_-... exo was a joke.
2. my point was DONT try to cap expertise ull sacrifice alot of stamina just for that few stupid melee hits.. 6.4kgs+ stats u dont have to worry about anything except for your contribution in dps Razz...
so the point is dont get much expertise dont get much parry and dont talent reckoning...

cuz if u want to do any of the above 3 things u HAVE TO do them ALL... its like a package.

other wise just get 26 for being undodgeable and stam stam stam + dodge a bit...
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PostSubject: Re: Paladin Tank   Wed May 16 2012, 13:43

Even with 0 expertise you won't have problem holding agro with pugs ( 5 from talent and 3 from racial if you're human, y u got 0 anyway?)
Not to mention most of the pug are not exp cap at all.

We are pugging at this point anyway, when we are actually do some REAL raid, someone might come up with 56 expertise

But yeah I don't find any guide that tells you to get 56 exp

26exp is just perfect.
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PostSubject: Re: Paladin Tank   Sat May 19 2012, 19:04

4 t10 set bonus that give 12% dodge is procced from holy shield, not divine plea. Just saying.
So you could have that 12% dodge everytime u use holy shield.

Getting 102.4% never has been this easy. I feel stupid for stacking def gem for a moment there.
I was having 120% avoidance 24/7 in icc self buff. Everyone can be a full avoidance tank with near 50k hp unbuff. With good gear ofc
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PostSubject: Re: Paladin Tank   Sun May 20 2012, 05:00

topic closed. (chibai stop posting. kthnxbai)
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PostSubject: Re: Paladin Tank   Sun May 20 2012, 15:58

Why the fuck boss still dodge me with 26 expertise?
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PostSubject: Re: Paladin Tank   Mon May 21 2012, 04:18

Idk u told me that i need 26 and i didnt test it yet if boss dodge me i keel u
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PostSubject: Re: Paladin Tank   Mon May 21 2012, 06:06

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And you can see from recount I never use SOC

@Iceys - It really is 26
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PostSubject: Re: Paladin Tank   Tue May 22 2012, 13:32

YOU CANT TANK NUFF SAID.
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PostSubject: Re: Paladin Tank   Wed Jun 20 2012, 03:38

HOLY MOTHER OF FUCK avoidance is fixed
I thought 102.4% is legit full avoidance on all server? Why they remove that?
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PostSubject: Re: Paladin Tank   Wed Jun 20 2012, 11:50

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PostSubject: Re: Paladin Tank   Tue Jun 26 2012, 20:18

Naids fak off stupid piece of shitface nub madafaka ! Instead of logging and sending me naab mails go less afk and more often online. Last Hope wtb brained tank for graids so logon go !
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